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They could have just left it with them breaking up in S5’s “The Rough Patch.” I mean, they’re already exes, why complicate their friendship more, especially if they’re supposed to remain friends in the future?

I love this!

The only one I don't totally agree with is 42., I think they've had their endgame planned at least from the second season (when the last scene with the kids was filmed), but I agree that it doesn't make any sense if they put Barney or Robin with someone else.

I'm going to recommend these articles to my friends, thanks so much for writing!

Thanks for reading, commenting, and recommending this to your friends! I appreciate it.

OK, you have made my day! :D
Gosh, I love your articles so much! I was beginning to despair to see those two together since the writters seem to constantly punch us in the stomach when it comes to B/R's relationship. But you gave a lot of damn good reasons to make me think that they have to end together. You just make so much sense. Thanks to you, a lot of elements came into light and now I just can't imagine Barney and Robin not ending up together :) I love their relationship so much. I'm a huge fan of the show and after such an analysis, B/R's future can't be any different.
Anyway, thanks again. Your article rocks! ;)

*claps*
this is perfection.

You bring up so many good points and I am seeing everything on the show in a new light now! Thanks for brightening up my day with this article. I just watched Symphony of Illumination today (I live in Australia, hence the delay) and I was thoroughly depressed from the moment Robin's kids disappeared. The whole episode seemed like confirmation of Barney and Robin but then the rug was pulled out from under us. Your list has made me much happier! Can't wait to see all your predications play out in the show (fingers crossed)!

A lot of B/R fans were beginning to lose hope after seeing "Symphony of Illumination" so I'm glad my article managed to brighten up your day. Thanks for reading and commenting!

These reasons are incredible! Seriously, I LOVE it! I haven't thought of 1/4 of these, which is a ton because I am a crazy BR supporter. BUT...you got something wrong. Future Ted does NOT say Robin doesn't have kids. He says she was never ALONE. Watch it again on cbs.com if you don't believe me.
This is seriously phenomenal. I think I'm in love with you (haha, sorry for the Mosby. I'm kidding.)
This must have taken you forever but I really wanted to thank you by posting this on my blog. I have a fairly large amount of constant viewers so I promise A lot of people will see this.
And if you're looking for episode reviews, spoilers, theories, etc., my blog is: http://slapbetcommisioners.blogspot.com/

Re: YOU ARE AMAZING!!!

Thanks for reading and commenting! You can definitely post this on your blog. Just give me credit for it.

"Symphony of Illumination" leaves the question if Robin ever becomes a mother open-ended. However, Carter Bays doesn't. He confirmed multiple times in recent interviews that Robin never becomes a mom (biological or otherwise).

Here are a few examples:
"This was an important moment we wanted to hit for the series arc," Carter tells me. "We've always said that Robin doesn't have kids, but thought it would be interesting to see how a door being closed to her would effect her. Even if she always thought she never wanted kids, it's still tough to hear." (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Kecks-Exclusives-Robins-1040484.aspx)

"Question: I have a burning How I Met Your Mother question from Monday’s episode. When Future Ted says that Robin never becomes a pole-vaulter, was that a confirmation that she never becomes a mom? —Pat
Ausiello: Actually, the confirmation came four years ago, according to exec producer Carter Bays. 'I would point people to the episode from Season 3 [titled] ‘Little Boys,’ he says. “In that episode, Robin’s grappling with the fact that she doesn’t particularly like children. And it ends with [Future Ted] explaining that she did go on to eventually like children in the form of Ted’s kids.' In case there remains any doubt, Bays states for the record that Robin 'doesn’t become a mom.'" (http://www.tvline.com/2011/12/ask-ausiello-spoilers-how-i-met-your-mother-spartacus-revenge-bones/)

I wouldn't have stated Robin never becomes a mom as fact if it wasn't for what Carter Bays has said in interviews.

Thanks again!

I love this article, thanks so much for devoting your time into writing this!

I never believed in the BRo (stole this abbr. from slapbetcommisioners.blogspot.com) r/ship until now, I only thought it would be an on-again/off-again sex-only r/ship...friends with benefits, if you will. But your article has convinced me that they will get married. I think you have thought more about the show than the writers did! And the yellow raincoat? Genius!

Thanks for taking the time to read and comment on my article. I appreciate it!

oh, and just to add on what I already said, the only contradiction I have to all of this is the events in S7's "Tick, tick, tick." I don't think even Barney could forgive her for betraying him like that.

Robin-Barney shipper right here! A very nice analysis, gives me even more hope that they're actually going to end up together :)

I can think of a really tenuous one but since you've fleshed out all the others really well, maybe it'll be a starting point for a solid #64 (I hope it hasn't been mentioned, I did look and couldn't see it).

In False Positive Barney gives up many of his old suits to the church. We know he gets married in that same church. Straight after he gives them up we cut to a shot of Robin getting her photo taken, and then follows her talking to Ted about his being her best man one day. I just felt that juxtaposition was kinda symbolic, since Robin is THE Suit (The Leap), so it's a bit like Barney giving up 'lesser suits'(cough*bimbos) on one of the few occasions he goes into a church.

Feel free to discard or rework!

ETA: OM word, I never realised it before but Barney crashed the whale on Robin's birthday, July 23rd (Natural History). Sweet!

Whenever I doubt Robin and Barney are endgame, I watch the last minute of Purple Giraffe. I think it's sweet but it's before the writers were even conciously aware of B/R endgame so it's not really relevant to your list.



Edited at 2012-01-09 05:07 pm (UTC)

I never noticed that before in "False Positive," but I am definitely going to add it to my list. I will give you credit for mentioning it if I ever get around to updating my list and adding more reasons as the season goes on. Thanks for bringing that to my attention! And thanks for reading and commenting!

This has been discussed in B/R, but it might still be pertinent to your list: Virginia and Clint. Ted's dad and mom were likened to Ted and Robin in Brunch. Later, Virginia ended up with Mr. Mosby's friend Clint.

In Home Wreckers, Future-Ted mentions the possibility that he could meet his future wife at his mom's wedding (Bays and Thomas said they had the goalpost of Barney getting married by the start of Season 6(http://www.tvguide.com/News/HIMYM-Season7-Barney-Robin-1037370.aspx..); so the events of 5.20 could be foreshadowing of the wedding at which Ted actually does meet the Mother. Assuming they already had Barney getting married in mind by 5.20, it would be an interesting parallel and may even hellp Ted to get over Robin 100% if he ever thinks of it in this way.

Clint's a bit Barney-like in the sense that Clint talks about Virginia being "erotic". Future-Ted also says that it doesn't make sense that Virginia and Clint would be happy together, but they were. Future-Ted's quote in Home Wreckers: "Sometimes our best decisions are the ones that don't make any sense at at all" reminded me of Robin's comment in Best Man when she was helping Barney talk to Nora: "I know it doesn't make any sense, but I can't shake the feeling that we belong together." Also, she and Lily agree that it wouldn't really make sense.

Interesting Theory!

This is a really interesting theory, but the only thing wrong with it is that Clint is not Mr. Mosby's friend who he set Virginia up with after their separation/divorce. In "Brunch," Mr. Mosby says his friend's name is Frank so clearly Clint is someone Virginia started seeing after she broke it off with Frank.

I still think the parallels between the characters even Barney and Clint hold up though and everything else you mentioned so I think I will add it to my list if I ever get around to working on it again.

Another parallel between Barney and Clint is that they both were "hippies." Twenty-three year old Barney used to be one and Clint still is one.

Thanks for your insight. I appreciate it.

Re: Interesting Theory!

Yeah, I know about Frank. It's in how Lily stole Christmas that clint is referred to as being Mr Mosby's friend. :) looking forward to the update; looks like there are quite a few things.

awesome analisys work. im from portugal and im a huge himym fan and a barney/robin enthusiastic fan and really enjoy this journey to discover true love. sorry my english but i want to ask one thing: i read in other sites some topics that made me have some doubts specially because here in portugal season 7 doesnt start yet, and i've just seen some episodes in the net:

For example in the wedding the way lily is dressed doesn't seem like she is the bride made of honor( i think this is how it's written), second when she calls ted saying the bride needs to talk to him she mades a face like she doesn't like something and in a interview i read with the show producers they say barney will get married but things won't be smoothy.

I know that some new bride candidate as appear in the show.

I'd love to read your opinion, and once again thanks for the awesome post a all of you forgive my english. Regards to you all from Portugal

Hi. It's nice to hear from you.

I believe the writers purposefully want things in the S7 episode "The Best Man" to be open to interpretation so everyone doesn't come to the conclusion Robin is the bride right away. They want viewers to second guess things. I think that is what the director was doing when having Alyson (Lily) act slightly confused in that scene. People may interpret it as Lily being confused as to why would the bride want to see Ted, but others, including me, interpret it as Lily being unsure as to why Robin wants to see Ted at that moment. Maybe the wedding doesn't go particularly smoothly (besides just the fact it rains on the wedding day) because Ted has to constantly go back and forth between the bride and groom all day. In S6's "Big Days," when Lily comes outside to tell Ted he is being summoned, Ted says "What now?" like he has been being summoned all day long. Even though the wedding day doesn't go smoothly, the writers have said that Barney does go through with it in the end. I think the most that will happen is some silly wedding day mayhem like what happened during Marshall and Lily's wedding. Plus, the wedding day will happen in one of the last episodes or the very last episode of the series because Ted meets the Mother on that day so I don't think the wedding will be that dramatic or a complete disaster (I think the last episode will concern itself with Ted meeting the Mother. To have Barney's wedding be full of disaster would distract too much from the real story -- the one the whole series has been leading to: Ted meeting the Mother.). The things not running smoothly that day are probably going to be played for laughs once the show gets to the wedding day. Also, I personally think Lily could be wearing a bridemaid's dress in those scenes, but that's just my opinion. Lastly, Becki Newton who plays Barney's new love interest Quinn has been cast in a new pilot for Fox next season so I don't think she will be around next year on HIMYM. Therefore, I think there is a good chance she won't be Barney's bride. Also, I think it would be more surprising for the audience if the bride is revealed to be someone Barney isn't currently dating, which I think will be Robin and not Barney's current girlfriend, Quinn.

Thanks for taking the time to read my list and comment on it. I appreciate it. I'm planning to add more reasons soon.

Thank you for your awnser, it make all sense. I read that robin is fighting for move on quinn house? why in the world would she want to move in barney's girlfriend ex house? To express that she is over her feelings for barney?

Regards from portugal

You're welcome. I haven't seen that episode yet, but it should air here in the US next Monday. I have no idea why Robin would want to move into Quinn's old apartment (other than needing a place to live since she is homeless right now). I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens in the actual episode to find out Robin's reasonings for wanting Quinn's apartment. Hopefully, Robin will at least show some signs of having feelings for Barney again in that upcoming episode, but I doubt it. The show seems to want to keep Robin's feelings for Barney a secret until the finale. That is my guess at least.

~claps~~
You are a genius! I saw the new episode of HIMYM and the end of the episode I lost my credibility that Robin could be the Barney's bride! But I read your 63 reasons and now I am so happy! Thank you so much [:

Re: You saved my life *--*

Thank you so much. I think the show is going to try and make the audience think Quinn is the bride now until the finale. However, I'm confident that when the bride is revealed in the finale it will be Robin. There is no way it can be Quinn b/c it wouldn't be "shocking" for the bride to be revealed as Barney's current girlfriend. Even if Barney proposes to Quinn in the present, the wedding takes place in the future, so I think the bride will be someone other than Quinn -- namely Robin. Quinn is just a bride red herring. Plus, Becki Newton, who plays Quinn, has been cast as one of the leads on the new Fox show called "The Goodwin Games," which begins airing in the fall. I can't see her sticking around long-term on HIMYM. Therefore, I think for practical reasons she can't be Barney's bride either.

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Re: my issue with robin as bride.

I think the creators either planned on Robin getting married from the very beginning of the series so Ted could meet the Mother at her wedding (but she would have married someone other than Barney) or the creators didn't initially plan for Ted to meet the Mother at Robin's wedding. I think they could have came up with the idea later on b/c they realized they could make the show come full-circle if Robin is the one getting married the day Ted meets the Mother. They probably decided to make Barney the groom b/c of the chemistry they saw between Barney and Robin. I think the creators didn't know the exact details of how Ted would eventually meet the Mother from the very beginning, but they maybe were always planning it to have something to do with Robin (thus why Future Ted would start his story with meeting Robin).

I love seeing all these new theories you've put in the comments. You should add them to the reasons above!

P.S. I have read this list start to finish so many times I can't even count any more...I love it!

Thank you. I actually have been working on additional reasons. I just haven't posted them yet. I need to go through and edit them first.

YAY! Looking forward to that! Can't wait to see the updated list!

You don't know how much you've made me happy with your B/R analysis! I'm a heavy B/R shipper and your blog has given me a huge amount of hope that Barney and Robin WILL end up together in the end. The episodes "Tick, Tick, Tick..." and "Symphony of Illumination" completely shattered my hopes that they're endgame but with your blog, you made me believe again! I'm from the Philippines and it was my friend who gave me a link to this blog. We are both B/R shippers and I'm completely thankful that there is somebody out there who committed themselves to write this analysis blog! Thank you so much again and I promise to share and promote your blog! It's truly a must read for HIMYM, particularly Barney and Robin, fans! :)

Re: Agree with your analysis

Thank you so much for reading and commenting on this. I appreciate it. I'm glad I could help you restore your faith in a B/R endgame!

first of all thank you for writing this it gave me a lot of relief .
you r great.

i don't know whether this have been pointed out or it means anything but here my theory on robin is the bride.

in season2 slap bet episode when ted imagine robin as a bride it has purple flowers in background

http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j338/vivekheron/vlcsnap-2012-03-26-22h15m22s123.jpg
http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j338/vivekheron/vlcsnap-2012-03-26-22h15m20s110.jpg

middle one had roses in it
http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j338/vivekheron/vlcsnap-2012-03-26-22h15m15s60.jpg

now in season 5 when ted imagine another girl as his bride and at that time there war no purple flower there.scene was dominated by roses.we know ted is a romantic guy.so he must like roses.
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltaef7GbY51r4jwmio1_500.jpg

and ted did not know that girl fully at that time then how could he had known her favorite flower.

now ultimately in barney's wedding
http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j338/vivekheron/vlcsnap-2012-03-25-21h53m20s222.jpg

although we don't fully know about the wedding flowers but it is safe to assume as of now purple going to be dominating the scene.

so this may not necessarily conclusive proof that robin is the bride but to me it highers the chances of her being the bride.
and will be great on continuity part.








This is a really interesting theory! I like it a lot.
On the Season 6 dvd there is a special feature called "What we know about your Mother." In it there is a deleted scene at the end from "Challenge Accepted" where Future Ted says the Mother's favorite flower is lilacs (which are purple), which just happened to to be the very first flower he ever gave her the very first moment they met. We know they will meet at Barney's wedding. So it is safe to assume lilacs will be a featured flower at Barney's wedding. And if this theory is correct then it will be Robin's wedding too.

Great points!! I absolutely agree, since the creators had to recognize that most of the HIMYM fans are more concerned about Robin and Barney than Ted and the Mother. They somehow has to finish that storyline, and it wouldn't make any sense if Barney marries a woman we hardly know. And Ted has to close his relationship with Robin permanently. I hope the bride is Quinn, but at the end of the wedding the wife will be Robin! :))

Edited at 2012-04-23 07:14 am (UTC)

Re: Barney's wedding

Thanks for reading and commenting! This is just my personal opinion, but I don't think there will be a bride switch b/c that is just too much drama for the day Ted is supposed to meet the Mother. Ted's story of meeting the Mother is the central story of the series, it should not be overshadowed with Barney's wedding day drama, especially since Ted meeting the Mother at Barney's wedding will probably take place in the final episode of the whole series. Thanks again for reading and commenting on my list. I appreciate it!

Just another great point in point 46. It was so much emphasized, that Robin asked the same question from Barney and Kevin, and it was the answer to this question which made Robin to choose Kevin over Barney. (There's the question of timing here again, as Kevin said I love you at the worst time.) I think Kevin knew what to say and when to say it as he was a therapyst. He said Robin what she wanted to hear, that Kevin sees her as she wanted to see herself. Barney loves her as she is. Get back to the point, there has to be the same question or statement said to Barney too(Robin is not able to have kids) and Barney will tell her, that this is not a problem for him.

I totally agree that Barney doesn't see Robin's infertility as a dealbreaker for him at all. He would much rather be with Robin than have kids. I agree that once Robin tells Barney about her infertility he won't have a problem with it b/c he truly loves her.


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